tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post5692470875628511728..comments2024-03-29T12:44:53.928+05:30Comments on gappa: The Changing EvilUgich Konitarihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-36696365583088372312009-03-12T10:54:00.000+05:302009-03-12T10:54:00.000+05:30I have some awards and a MeMe for you at my site.....I have some awards and a MeMe for you at my site...check it out!Roshnihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107573625336456428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-48782970532143837072009-03-11T19:47:00.000+05:302009-03-11T19:47:00.000+05:30Reading your post is so educational. On the gold ...Reading your post is so educational. On the gold jewelery.<BR/>I have stopped wearing most jewelery that I have. Just do not feel comfortable wearing these special pieces so they are tucked away. Thank you for your comments on my journal. They are meaningful to me.One Woman's Journey - a journal being written from Woodhaven - her cottage in the woods.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12548226150115102345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-67754523839179704302009-03-11T11:09:00.000+05:302009-03-11T11:09:00.000+05:30Hitch writer Yes , of course. The public Ganeshots...<B>Hitch writer</B> Yes , of course. The public Ganeshotsav celebration is certainly not celebrated as visualized these days, but families are really now the backbone of the ganpati festival. <BR/><BR/>And the less said about public Bhang shops in Indore, the better. Maybe they still got the 90 lakhs, but 6 went somewhere else...<BR/><BR/><B>Lilly</B> Most of us older types wear the necklace. Rings are not so important. But maybe bangles are. And yes, our gold is 22 carat, while I think you guys use 18 carat which is a bit pale. <BR/><BR/>And everytime I travel in the trains, I do little tricks like pinning my necklace to my outfit with a safety pin and just pushing it inside for the duration of the travel. . Always works, and frustrates potential lady pickpockets. You just have to constantly innovate , anticipate, and remain one step ahead. <BR/><BR/>And while I used to avidly be part of the color throwing water flinging brigade in my much younger days, I simply dont open the door to anyone till noon, as these days folks kind of mess up walls and your room with color in their enthusiasm. Typically though, if you have small children, you are an active participant.... if you ever plan a trip here, make sure its either Feb-Mar, Aug or Oct-Nov, because thats when our fun festivals are.<BR/><BR/><B>Sujatha</B> What you say is true. We need to change with the times. What bothers me, is most of the time the motivation for changing is some unrelated thing.<BR/><BR/><B>Vinita</B> Looks like this business of thieves getting angry is more prevalent than I thought, and that too possibly in the Western suburbs of Mumbai. The episode that mention happened in front of Parleshwar temple in Vile Parle(east). But these days, one has to be very very alert.<BR/><BR/><B>Sylvia, Darlene</B> Thanks so much for the comments. And wouldnt it be great if you folks could come and enjoy some of our festivals here......<BR/><BR/><B>Sucharita</B> Thank you. Incidentally, I stole the widget from my son's cricket blog, where I was like the 6th most opinionated commenter, without knowing much of cricket :-)<BR/><BR/><B>Priya</B> Isnt it strange. My mother and m-in-law wore their mangalsutras all the time. I wear it during the day/when I go out, but remove it at night for reasons of discomfort, and you wear it only rarely . Tells you a lot about the tolerance level of successive generations. <BR/><BR/>I feel one of the reasons the relevance of munja and stuff has reduced, is that most do not have the time to explain the rituals, and their significance. Even the gurujees are in a hurry. And secondly the emphasis today is on showing others, rather than satisfying oneself about things..... <BR/><BR/><B>Kavi</B>Actually, our ancestors designed songs and rituals to enhance the understanding of the festivals. In non-tech days, these things happened over , say, natural time. <BR/><BR/>Today, TV and political symbolism has made a parody of it all, and the emphasis is on totally selfish things, while the songs, stotras, and rituals kind of fast forward into possible oblivion...<BR/><BR/>Ah well. Happy Holi anyway....:-)Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-68182557469771284322009-03-11T09:51:00.000+05:302009-03-11T09:51:00.000+05:30What interweaving ! Lovely.And you are bang on. Sy...What interweaving ! Lovely.<BR/><BR/>And you are bang on. Symbolism and rituals have taken over lives. And he real meaning has become sidelined. <BR/><BR/>Rituals have become meaning in themselves ! And thats so discomforting. <BR/><BR/>And thats one reason why i dont quite enjoy as much the festivals that get celebrated in the modern day ! hmm !Kavihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11426040093753611098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-19997630702710330762009-03-11T02:45:00.000+05:302009-03-11T02:45:00.000+05:30I have a confession to make - I don't wear my mang...I have a confession to make - I don't wear my mangalsutra on a daily basis. I'm married alright :-) but wearing a mangalsutra somehow seems like being "branded". Both my husband and I believe that marriage is a state of mind, and you don't *have* to wear certain jewellery in order to announce it to the world. I wear my mangalsutra only on special occassions now. <BR/>I do, on the other hand, wear a beautiful ganapati pendant 24/7 that was a gift from my sisters when I first decided to move overseas. So much for being "modern' and liberated eh ?<BR/>:-)<BR/><BR/>"Sometimes I think we've modified things too much, and are missing the relevance".... <BR/><BR/>this especially strick a note with me. i've been watching a lot of boys go through the "munj" and can't help but feel what a colossal waste of time, energy and planning it all is.<BR/><BR/>Priya.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-92019608572547393462009-03-11T02:39:00.000+05:302009-03-11T02:39:00.000+05:30Trust you to link gold, pickpockets, marriage ritu...Trust you to link gold, pickpockets, marriage rituals, Kasab, L-e-t and other issues like a unique-ly beaded mangalsutra. Enjoyed your post a lot.<BR/><BR/>P.S: I see that I am the tenth most opinionated person on your blog. It's a competitive world of comments out there, isn't it? Great widget!Sucharita Sarkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07802171314546508539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-2496177337766413452009-03-10T23:53:00.000+05:302009-03-10T23:53:00.000+05:30I just love reading your posts. It is so educatio...I just love reading your posts. It is so educational and I am learning much about your customs. The original meaning usually gets lost in the celebration of a holiday. Maybe that's just as well.Darlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18373134676852496647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-14360977161430494152009-03-10T23:02:00.000+05:302009-03-10T23:02:00.000+05:30Great post! as always and I always learn something...Great post! as always and I always learn something new! I we've modified things too much all over the world. Hope you enjoyed the holiday!Sylvia Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05484577678585907669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-35822703321184884142009-03-10T22:49:00.000+05:302009-03-10T22:49:00.000+05:30My cousin was slapped the next day for wearing fak...My cousin was slapped the next day for wearing fake mangalsutra and wasting the robbers' time. SHe was so traumatised by the incident that she started taking a taxi instead of train almost for 6 months. My aunt at andheri was stopped at a bus stop after getting down from the bus and told that they were IRS inspectors. And as there was some goondagardi going on in the next block they were looking out for people and that she should keep all her jewellry in her purse instead of wearing it. She was forced to take out her chain , mangalsutra, bangles ring everything and asked that those be put in the purse. Then these so called security people wanted to make sure that she did put way below down in the purse and sort of shoved it down. After she got home ofcourse the jewellry wasnt there. ALl this happened in max 3 min. Even she does not remember how this all happened and how she could have been this gullible.<BR/><BR/>Saw Shobha de today on GMA. She was there only for a few seconds.<BR/><BR/><BR/>VinitaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-76075536888502419922009-03-10T18:57:00.000+05:302009-03-10T18:57:00.000+05:30Great post! Agree with you that we do perform so m...Great post! Agree with you that we do perform so many rituals without really knowing why they were done in the first place. But am wondering if the modification has become necessary over time. If the original rituals were in response to a certain set of conditions existing at that time, then the modifications are necessary to respond to conditions at the present time - like wearing fake jewellery, for example.Sujatha Bagalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02140274113596874518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-13692898489591561512009-03-10T17:19:00.000+05:302009-03-10T17:19:00.000+05:30I love reading your blog because I am always learn...I love reading your blog because I am always learning something. Evil is accepted and often rewarded the world over as you say. Strangely.<BR/><BR/>Interesting story about the gold and the pick pockets.Do married women wear rings and the necklaces? I recall an Indian friend Marna (have not seen her for years as she went back to India) who wore the most amazing gold jewellery. Your gold is a very rich gold quite different from ours. How indignant the thief must have been not to get the 'real thing'. Incredible isnt it?<BR/><BR/>Enjoy Holi, love the bright colours and it sounds like fun but as you say the real meaning of the day gets lost over time. So does that mean you are going to be all sorts of colours yourself Ugich? I want pictures!! Or is ver. 2 a little different.<BR/><BR/>Do people throw the colours all over each other? <BR/><BR/>You make me want to visit India - so fascinating your home.Lillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14597193176450931002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-36564914560625808882009-03-10T14:07:00.000+05:302009-03-10T14:07:00.000+05:30Also would you believe in Indore the Bhang Stalls ...Also would you believe in Indore the Bhang Stalls have been tendered at 84 lakhs by the Nagar Palika, they wanted 90 lakhs but the highest tender came for 84 lakhs!!!! <BR/><BR/>Official Bhang shops for 84 lakhs !! so much for small festivals celebrating victory of good over evil !hitch writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07533278513292989066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-77083834626420058132009-03-10T14:06:00.000+05:302009-03-10T14:06:00.000+05:30Thats a valid point... Ganpati being another simil...Thats a valid point... <BR/><BR/>Ganpati being another similar case... from getting the galli people together and community building exercise, it has become a commercial and too large an event I feel !! <BR/><BR/>that story about the fake jewellery... yea i heard the same one too, dont believe it is true though lol :-) <BR/><BR/>I hate holi, yet I play... its yuck, yet its fun too !hitch writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07533278513292989066noreply@blogger.com