tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post6718625572278487531..comments2024-03-28T14:43:18.928+05:30Comments on gappa: 'Fair' is just a four lettered word.....Ugich Konitarihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-88987197317169002812012-04-20T22:05:40.881+05:302012-04-20T22:05:40.881+05:30What is ironic is that even after such a public ou...What is ironic is that even after such a public outcry the ad people just continue to make such ads. And the so-called role models and youth icons keep on endorsing this mindless garbage and the multinationals just keep cashing in on our colonist complexes. Great post. Will hang out here more often.Swapnahttp://themomviews.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-10500762004430251112012-04-14T16:01:26.785+05:302012-04-14T16:01:26.785+05:30A well written post ! and it is sad when well read...A well written post ! and it is sad when well read 'educated' people have such colored values!<br /><br />Gosh, its been so long since i read this space :)aMushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14191649124291527517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-55568326162761958172012-04-12T23:19:21.457+05:302012-04-12T23:19:21.457+05:30I've been witness to an almost exact episode, ...I've been witness to an almost exact episode, except the girl was simply called black, (without the "beauty"). In general the higher the education, or the social strata ( I exclude page-3 types) , the more senseless and insensitive the comments. That's what I have found. It really depends on what thinking was dinned into you when you were brought up. I've seen entire families applauding and having a laugh over one of their own making a "colored" comment about someone. <br /><br />I just think you need a no-nonsense bringing up with thoughtful values, and a gratitude for what you have.Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-64221291999667111142012-04-12T22:30:45.397+05:302012-04-12T22:30:45.397+05:30I have been a eager reader of your blog for a coup...I have been a eager reader of your blog for a couple of years.. delurking now because this post struck a personal chord.. especially the part about swimming.. being a "wheatish-dark" child with a tendency to tan quickly in a fairer extended "highly-educated since 4 generations" Maharashtrian family, cousins etc. I remember going to swimming classes during school summer vacation when i must have been 12-13 yrs old.. and then attending a family function the same summer.. I remember being called "black beauty" by one grand-uncle amidst chuckles in front of the entire gathering.. now 20 yrs later i know that i should not have let it affect my confidence.. but at that shy young age, the experience had a permanent impact on my mind.. I wonder if "degree" education is sufficient to make a change..<br /><br />-PKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-697784219441908532012-04-11T17:13:51.548+05:302012-04-11T17:13:51.548+05:30Karishma, Thank you, and welcome to Gappa !Karishma, Thank you, and welcome to Gappa !Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-60815646791899890292012-04-11T17:12:51.983+05:302012-04-11T17:12:51.983+05:30Shail (or should I say Sundari Mol :-)... its such...Shail (or should I say Sundari Mol :-)... its such a lovely sounding name), I agree this obsession about fair > dark has always been there in the older generation. It is amazing that ladies of my generation continue to comment on this too , and turn up their noses at dark girls. We havent learned a thing in all these years. I've seen this happen blatantly without a thought for the said girl's mind. And then there are these so called eligible boys that "shop" for eligible girls, of fair complexions. And I've seen tons of talented dark/wheatish girls, with amazing skin, and great smiles, and brilliant laughs and attitudes of friendship. <br /><br />There is even a theory that if the girl is fair, the grandchildren will turn out fair. I know for sure that this is not always true. But what can you say when marriage is treated as an exercise in optimization of color ......Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-90993619359725936152012-04-11T17:01:34.147+05:302012-04-11T17:01:34.147+05:30Why does no one realise that all those chemicals, ...Why does no one realise that all those chemicals, lathering agents, fairness products, et al, contain chemicals, many of which are the culprits in the large proportion of women we see today afflicted with cancers in their young ages. You dont play around with hormones, and chemicals that mimic hormones. But short term status victories always win over long term benefits. Sigh.Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-75619931963571620012012-04-11T14:00:48.203+05:302012-04-11T14:00:48.203+05:30Hey Barbara ! It's OK . It matters what you s...Hey Barbara ! It's OK . It matters what you say, not where you stand and say it ! :-)Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-91296901522897880312012-04-11T13:57:28.069+05:302012-04-11T13:57:28.069+05:30Apologies,Ugich,have put a reply in the wrong plac...Apologies,Ugich,have put a reply in the wrong place,not once,but twice ! How mindless is that ????Barbara Blundellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10737381770907901607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-15150666419475337562012-04-11T13:47:37.890+05:302012-04-11T13:47:37.890+05:30Think you are right but equanimity-fairness of min...Think you are right but equanimity-fairness of mind is such a hard one !Barbara Blundellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10737381770907901607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-86948099853228311362012-04-11T13:43:19.652+05:302012-04-11T13:43:19.652+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Barbara Blundellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10737381770907901607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-68652317694937733472012-04-11T10:53:28.772+05:302012-04-11T10:53:28.772+05:30brilliantly written post!brilliantly written post!Karishma VPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11945136139407912234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-77240141864201813102012-04-11T10:36:17.297+05:302012-04-11T10:36:17.297+05:30Eeks! That should be Granny's and not grannies...Eeks! That should be Granny's and not grannies! *what was I thinking!*Shailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07174562168503272243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-60421290806583869582012-04-11T10:06:42.636+05:302012-04-11T10:06:42.636+05:30I was nodding my head reading and at one point I t...I was nodding my head reading and at one point I thought my head would come off. I agree with you so very much on all counts. But where I differ is, even in the past people were obsessed with fairness. It is just that it was not as widely known as now. In the past too people hurt those with a darker complexion, with their cruel remarks.<br />It seems I had been fair(er) while a baby. I was called 'Sundari mol' (beautiful daughter) by my aunt because of that. When she met me years later while I was in college, she looked at me aghast, "What happened to you? You were (note the past tense) so beautiful! You look all dark now." So beauty equates fairness? All this was gross exaggeration just because I had a tan :P Just because I did not shy away from the sun. I hate umbrellas, never use them either for sun or rain. My grandma shed tears because my sister was born as a dark baby. But she of course turned fairer than all putting my grannies fears (!!!) to rest. <br />The first thing that most from the older generation, and here I mean the one older to mine, mentioned about a young girl (or boy for that matter) is color. I have noticed this with unfailing regularity. The rest everything comes after this. "Fair girl" is supposed to cover ALL desirable qualities in a woman (sic).<br />Making tall claims which cannot be substantiated by ads should be a crime punishable by law. Not only do these creams not make anyone fair, they do harm. Besides, I'd like the ad people to prove that being fair wins over ability in ANY field. Even a model or a film star should have the ability to act or do cat walk. Other than SICK marriage markets I don't think it is a sought after criterion anywhere.Shailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07174562168503272243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-15019271139426038852012-04-11T10:01:48.787+05:302012-04-11T10:01:48.787+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Shailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07174562168503272243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-27088350977535680892012-04-10T22:38:03.689+05:302012-04-10T22:38:03.689+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-65708964681979503152012-04-10T22:33:49.268+05:302012-04-10T22:33:49.268+05:30We really need to train the eyes of the beholder. ...We really need to train the eyes of the beholder. The other option of growing longer ears looks very attractive from the point of view of being able to pull them....:-)Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-19366874396202620062012-04-10T22:31:26.498+05:302012-04-10T22:31:26.498+05:30Mindless is the word that come to mind, when I see...Mindless is the word that come to mind, when I see all this.Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-71193123480764318832012-04-10T22:29:15.636+05:302012-04-10T22:29:15.636+05:30I see these at close quarters even today. And educ...I see these at close quarters even today. And education has nothing to do with it.Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-13675796347192973232012-04-10T22:27:43.494+05:302012-04-10T22:27:43.494+05:30In fact it is rampant ....In fact it is rampant ....Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-32957391252620234862012-04-10T22:21:52.812+05:302012-04-10T22:21:52.812+05:30I think in this big hurry to be acceptable by &quo...I think in this big hurry to be acceptable by "world standards", conveniently interpreted for us by the advertisers, we really are losing our individuality. Some folks hold on to it come what may, and are to be admired.Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-76482888739237861922012-04-10T22:18:49.301+05:302012-04-10T22:18:49.301+05:30These visual verbal electronic mediums have also g...These visual verbal electronic mediums have also given a kind of OK to stupid people to talk blatantly about someone's color , without regard to anyone's feelings. 50 years ago, there were rules on what you commented on to someone's face, and what you didnt. Today shamelessness rules.Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-70077175673137150572012-04-10T22:15:20.602+05:302012-04-10T22:15:20.602+05:30Yes, I've seen such things happening ....Yes, I've seen such things happening ....Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-68197162879665767042012-04-10T22:13:03.253+05:302012-04-10T22:13:03.253+05:30We as a people have become brain lazy and body-qui...We as a people have become brain lazy and body-quick.Looking for short cuts and quick answers. And a whole bunch of folks get their self esteem dented because they are the wrong color, and not allowed to forget that.Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25171037.post-63336937417960535472012-04-10T22:06:47.887+05:302012-04-10T22:06:47.887+05:30And seems to be increasing day by day ....And seems to be increasing day by day ....Ugich Konitarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15901335427613806798noreply@blogger.com